|By Alex Carson||By 11-03-2012|
|1. By: Jerry on 11-03-2012 22:23:31|
No thanks. Lohse is my bet for worst contract of the offseason.
|2. By: acqb1424 on 11-04-2012 07:14:58|
Definitely off topic here, but what about trading for Asdrubal Cabrera? The Indians just picked up Aviles and there has been some chatter he might be available. I know that Brendan Ryan is a great defensive shortstop, but Cabrera would be a boost for the offense. Any chance we have an article coming up about him?
|3. By: jgstecker on 11-04-2012 07:24:05|
If nothing else, Bill Bavasi is on board with a Lohse deal. Just ask Carlos Silva, Jarrod Washburn, and Miguel Batista.
Only I don't think even Bavasi would cough up a #12 overall pick to do it.
|4. By: Edman on 11-04-2012 07:42:15|
I'd rather give Vargas arby money, than ever consider Lohse. So far, through this series of posts, the only two I even consider possible are Sizemore and Morneau, and they are still remote.
|5. By: Shawnuel on 11-04-2012 07:49:56|
#1, #3 and #4. Agreed. BIG no thanks!I think I agree with Edman on the two that have some interest for me although I might add Choo or Morrison if the return wasn't too much.....which is highly unlikely.
|6. By: sexymarinersfan on 11-04-2012 09:27:21|
Don't take this the wrong way Alex because I know how much time and effort you and the rest of the Prospect Insider team put into this site, but signing Kyle Lohse and losing the 12th pick in the draft would be foolish when you already have 4 top quality prospects waiting in the wings and you're team is hurting for offense and on somewhat of a budget. However I do realize you guys are trying cover all the possibilities out there and do a damned good job of it! But Lohse? PASS!!!
|7. By: Timberwolf on 11-04-2012 09:55:23|
Just say NO. Giving up draft picks when we finally have people who know how to use them is the wrong thing to do 9 out of 10 times. When you factor in age and position it is like 999 out of 1000.
|8. By: Jerry on 11-04-2012 10:05:20|
So many better alternatives.
Want a solid, mid-rotation guy? Anibal Sanchez.
Want a ground ball pitcher? Brabdon McCarthy.
Want a veteran workhorse? Edwin Jackson.
Lohse is way overvalued. I'm always skeptical about cardinals pitchers, because that team always seems to get above average performances from mediocre guys. The Silva comps make sense except Lohse is older. Perfect storm of no thank you.
If the M's are going to add starting pitching, I hope they either go expensive or bargain.
Zach Greinke and Dan Haren both make a lot of sense. Haren is coming off a poor year, but has a great record of durability and success before. He is the prototype #2 starter. And Greinke is one of the more underrated elite players in baseball. Due to the BS about his emotional issues, he is likely to be underpaid. Slotting either of those guys behind Felix makes the rotation much better. And neither will cost a high draft pick.
On the other end, I'd bring in 1-2 reclamation projects. Luke Hochevar, Mike Pelfrey, or Francisco Liriano would be good moves. One guy I would go after in trades is Rick Porcello. He is exactly the type of guy who could thrive with the M's.
Lots of better options.
|9. By: maqman on 11-04-2012 10:44:08|
I'm not sold on our needing to sign any high cost free agent arm unless we trade Vargas or two of the Big 4. All of our free agent shopping should be at the bat department. Picking up a 2013 Millwood would be okay. With the signing of Perez we also could possibly re-program him, The Bartender or Furbush as a starter. We have plenty of bullpen arms and I'm betting Z will build a nice pile of bullpen prospects with minor league contract signings with a spring training invite. He's a master at that.
Whatever, just say no to Lohse, that's a clown contract bro.
|10. By: Alex Carson on 11-04-2012 13:50:45|
@sexymarinersfan (and others) - Remember, we are mostly just presenting the options out there. Not necisarily advocating them.
I think Lohse could be a decent fit at the right price **IF** the club makes other more important signings first. If it's Lohse over a bat, heck no. Will they have the budget to do all of that? Perhaps not.
And never ever ever ever hesitate to kick feedback about anything we post. I believe I speak on behalf of the entire PI staff when I say we are kicking out ideas and options and always welcome the feedback of the community. I am by no means an elitist.
|11. By: Rudolf on 11-04-2012 16:50:05|
Lohse has teased and burned teams for over a decade. He might be worth an 8 Million per contract-- like Pineiro two years ago-- but when you factor in the lost draft pick, the league switch, career year expectations, the volatility of his career, the Dave Duncan factor- even Kent Bottenfield was worth 2.2 wins in St. Louis-- Lohse on a 3/30 contract (or more!) is a joke. If he didn't cost a draft pick and was available at 2/16 then he would be a satisfactory bridge to Hultzen and co.
Maybe he's a late bloomer. Let's not find out in Seattle.
|12. By: VikingArthur on 11-05-2012 12:08:37|
Signing Lohse would be a major mistake.
1. He'd be back in the AL where mediocre pitchers go to die.
2. He'd be away from the Cardinal miracle workers.
3. Giving away a 12th pick in the draft to pick up rotation fodder is silly.
There is no way he'll only get 2 years... pick Millwood back up if you want an average pitcher. He'll cost us less and be roughly similar. Lohse would simply be a bad signing. No go.
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