|By Adam H. Wong||By 11-01-2012|
|1. By: roosevelt on 11-01-2012 21:34:25|
So sad. The M's could have signed him last winter as a free agent. Many of us thought that would have been a superb move. Alas, the M's decided to save money by not spending it. Could you imagine.... Willingham was signed by the Twins at salary well below Chone Figgins. Just shoot me!
|2. By: sexymarinersfan on 11-01-2012 21:47:46|
Yeah, but hindsight is 20/20. No one knew or else we might've won that bidding war. I don't like the idea of giving up our top talent for a 32 yr. old player whose at his peak value. This team does need offensive power, but the Twins are surely looking for front line pitching. There's no need to trade away our young pieces until we actually know that we can contend or it's for other young cost controlled talent such as Pineda for Montero.
This teams motto right now should be keep building the core!
|3. By: Rudolf on 11-01-2012 21:58:03|
I agree w/ Sexy.
Trading Franklin/Miller and Maurer + a bullpen arm for Willingham makes me sick. In a year both of those guys could be putting up more WAR than Josh. If only one of them pans out-- which should be soon, they're in AAA-- it's a loser deal.
|4. By: aerichner on 11-01-2012 23:00:46|
I for one am not dying over the fact that we "missed out" on Willingham.
So we signed Figgins and he didn't work out, Twins signed Willingham and he worked out therefore Twins management > Mariners management *sarcasmfont*
Willingham was great last year ...he was so awesome that he helped turn the Twins into...the worst team in the AL. Would he have had the same year in Seattle? Who knows. Would we have been in the playoffs? Doubt it...but again, who knows.
Unless we're trading C (grade, not position) prospects for Willingham, I'd rather see the team trade for a cost controlled bat and then unload $$ on a legit SP, a "reclamation" SP, and another bat. Can't count on Walker/Hultzen/Paxton/Maurer yet so adding SP now behind/between Felix and hopefully Iwakuma is a must (I'd trade or non-tender Vargas). Signing SPs now will not block our youngsters because they're not ready but if need be, the SP we sign can always be dealt mid season or the year after to make room.
|5. By: maqman on 11-02-2012 11:57:35|
Willingham has become a fan favorite for the Twins, which might make him even more expensive. Span is four years younger and put up the same fWAR as Willingham (and Swisher).
I'd sign Vargas and if possible Iwakuma (we'll know if they can do that by Sunday, if not they can't sign him until mid-May). If and when the prime pitching prospects reach the big club they won't have a problem trading Vargas later.
|6. By: Jerry on 11-02-2012 12:49:48|
The Royals just DFA'd Jeremy Jeffress. Jack drafted hIm, and he is the type of player you take a shot on. I'd be surprised if the M's didn't try to claim him.
|7. By: foreverrebuilding on 11-02-2012 14:29:42|
What about Franklin + one of the Big Three + a lower-grade prospect for Carlos Gonzalez? Franklin's power would fit nicely for a 2b in Colorado, and paired with Tulo would make for a formidable MI.
|8. By: sexymarinersfan on 11-02-2012 16:46:16|
Or how bout we sign a FA OF, then develop one of the Big Three, turn him into a legit front line pitcher, buy out his arbitration years and have him be part of the core for the future.
|9. By: qwerty on 11-02-2012 17:10:31|
I'm w/ Sexy. FA's for OF's, C, MI, SP.
|10. By: Jerry on 11-02-2012 17:18:31|
I agree with sexy,
The M's don't need to be trading away all their talent.
The more I read about this upcoming offseason - with so many teams flush with money and apparently ready to go on a spending spree - the more I think that the M's might want to be smart.
Obviously, Jack needs to shake all the branches and inquire about any players who could help, but this free agent class isn't that inspiring. Spending money just to spend money isn't smart. If players like Hamilton, Greinke, Swisher, etc are getting stupid money, let some other team write that check.
Guys that could make sense if the market goes nuts: Melky Cabrera, Francisco Liriano, Ryan Madson, Brandon McCarthy, and Jonothan Broxton.
Supplement that with some risk/reward and change-of-scenery guys: Grady Sizemore, Luke Hochevar, Daric Barton, Dominic Brown, Jeremy Jeffress, Brennan Boesch, and Mike Pelfrey.
Add in a smart trade or two - perhaps something under the radar like the Jaso pickup - and the M's could have a nice offseason without doing anything stupid, like giving big money to mediocre guys, giving up draft picks, or pulling a "ChooGuillenCabrera" (giving up too early on a talented young player).
|11. By: Jerry on 11-02-2012 17:18:54|
One other name: Japanese SS Hiroyuki Nakajima. He sounds like a much better version of our favorite cheerleader. The M's need a utility infielder, and the scouting reports describe Nakajima as a guy who could probably emerge as a starter eventually. Wouldn't hurt to add some depth in the middle infield.
|12. By: zrininger on 11-02-2012 18:17:41|
Anybody have any thoughts on the M's picking up Roberto Hernandez now that Cleveland has declined his option? Seems like a good bounce back candidate.
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