|By Jason A. Churchill||By 05-01-2010|
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|1. By: 200tang on 05-01-2010 05:02:22|
How about Lance Berkman?
|2. By: Uncle Al on 05-01-2010 07:15:36|
Nice write up. I like your idea of picking up another C that can hit. The Silva contract, Lee trade, and smaller budget is what's got us where we are. Getting Bradley for Silva was a big help but still cost $12.5M against the budget, when Lee fell into our laps, the trade had to be made but it was another $9M against the budget without any additional offensive help, and it appears the FO was right about attendance this year and should have lowered the budget. The biggest problem is still LF and DH with Bradley being the only help at all. Todays loss was really bad and there will be more even with the offense getting a little better. The bright side is that we've accumulated a wealth of pitching and the trade deadline will get us something. Z did everything he possibly could with what he had to work with and should sit and wait while his trade chips build in value.
|3. By: acqb1424 on 05-01-2010 07:42:50|
I'm not sure I would blame the Lee trade on impacting our ability to get a bat, and the Silva trade did bring us a bat so I'm ok with that. What worries me is the declining budget. I know GM Z can do fine with a smaller amount to play with, but Jason why do you think the M's are cutting back? I mean we had Washburn, Beltre, Batista, Johjima and Branyan all come off the books, there should have been some money in there somewhere to add another bat. So even if you assume that losing Batista and gaining Lee is a budget wash, and the same can be said for the Beltre/Figgins swap, even factoring in the extra money in the Bradley trade, there still should have been money. I know we had the King's extension (which was awesome) and the extension for Guti, and that the bats on the market weren't that great, but how do we go from a team spending 100+ million on players to what we're spending now? Is it really because of the economy or do you see the M's continuing to drop the budget?
|4. By: Jason A. Churchill on 05-01-2010 08:54:45|
Berkman has a full no-trade and isn't likely to waives it to go anywhere, and the Astros are too stupid to ask him to do so, anyway. They'd rather keep the hometown guy.
Payroll isn't a problem. If the Mariners thought there was a hitter out there that could really help them, money would absolutely not stand in the way.
Starting the year under 100 mil helps them if they want to make a deal mid-season. So don't worry about that part.
The problem is finding players worthy of going over the current budget to acquire.
|5. By: AntsInIn on 05-01-2010 10:01:08|
Granted he's entirely unproven and not even in our farm system, but what about Kila Kia'ahue of the Royals? He's got a really nice ISO and slugging percentage and is totally blocked in KC's system with Guillen DH-ing. Either that, or hopefully Nick Johnson gets booed out of New York because of his low BA (despite his sick OBP) and becomes available for Jesus Montero.
Also, there are a lot of teams out there with a glaring need for relief pitching (KC, AZ, Baltimore to name a few), and since the M's have Kelley in the minors I wonder if they might make him or maybe Aardsma available.
|6. By: cusefan15 on 05-01-2010 10:29:02|
I think Chris Ianetta would also be an interesting fit. Colorado seems to have soured on him over the past couple of years.
|7. By: safecochatter on 05-01-2010 12:13:51|
Problem with the up coming trade market is nobody seems poised to run away with anything. which means everyone stays in contention a lot longer. even the nats are currently in 2nd place and 3 games over 500.
the surprise in the trade market may come from Dodgerland. dead last right now in the nl west and an owner that may decide to shed payroll at some point. and the Dodgers are loaded in the outfield.and yes,i know,kemp is untouchable. by the way,i can't believe the way he called kemp out in the press last week.
|8. By: DAMellen on 05-01-2010 14:38:05|
DeJesus is injury prone, but he's not Erik Bedard or anything. Missed 18 games last year, 27 the year before, and only 5 the year before that. Plus he's a good fielder who fits our park well (he slaps it the other way a fair amount, but almost all his power's to right), and doesn't need to be pinch hit for every time the other team brings in a lefty (.337 OBP vs. lefties is well below his .366 against righties, but it's right around average). I don't even think he needs to be a secondary option. I'd give Dayton a call right now and see what he wants. I know the Royals are looking for pitching. Would they want a prospect or someone who can help right away (I know logic seems to indicate they'd want a prospect, but they dealt Danny Cortes and Derrick Saito for Yuni Betancourt so logic is apparently not a big thing for Dayton Moore)? How do they feel about Luke French?
|9. By: littlelinny6 on 05-01-2010 16:32:17|
I agree with cusefan15, I think Chris Ianetta is a victim of small sample size and he could be a great buy low candidate. I also think DeJesus could be a reasonable upgrade without costing too much in the way of prospects.
Ultimately, the best way for the M's to make a move is to force their hand and by that I mean an injury to Griffey/Mascot. Where is Tonya Harding when you need her?
|10. By: Jason A. Churchill on 05-01-2010 17:11:43|
Ianetta is still THE guy for them for the future. Good luck prying a catcher from that org. Plus, right now, not exactly a big upgrade. He was sent back to CSP because he wasn't hitting.
Kila is interesting, but it doesn't do a lot for this year's club unless you think he's just going to come up to the bigs and continue what he's doing in AAA -- not likely.
They really need proven bats right now, or it's just a shot in the dark. This club needs to stop taking small-risk shots in the dark.
|11. By: Durian on 05-01-2010 20:07:31|
Does anyone know why Carp was replaced (by Carrera) during tonight's game? Did he get injured?
|12. By: FWBrodie on 05-01-2010 20:35:10|
I went to a game last time the Astros were in town and while I was down watching BP before the game above the Stros dugout I kind of eavesdropped on Berkman having a long conversation with what appeared to be a group of close friends of his that live in Seattle. They were talking and catching up for about 20 minutes and made plans to go out after the game.
Anyways, maybe Seattle wouldn't be so unappealing for the Big Puma. I'm sure he wouldn't mind playing in some meaningful games at least.
|13. By: safecochatter on 05-01-2010 21:12:37|
carp was ejected by hp umpire in bottom of the 4th.
|14. By: Jason A. Churchill on 05-01-2010 21:19:30|
Berkman also has a lot of friends in SoCal. So what?
The team has to want to deal him, too... don't forget that.
|15. By: dewey on 05-01-2010 21:35:16|
Im gonna say it one more time you have to score alot to win in the A.L.! We wont and cant we are carrying dead wood Griffey,Byrnes and Sweeney i guess vetran influence can stink!No help in Tacoma either i have no answers just questions?
|16. By: rjfrik on 05-01-2010 21:47:04|
Safeco, you are right about Dodgerland. I live down in la la land and there is a lot of chatter going on right now. Their starting pitching is horrible and that is their biggest problem. I would love to nab Either somehow. He would absolutely rake here.
One can dream I guess.
|17. By: Jason A. Churchill on 05-01-2010 22:31:00|
I actually considered Ethier for Seattle, but they'd be outbid for him if he was available. LA is going to want pitching or catching in return.
Absolutely. But I hear the Phillies are willing to deal their entire farm system for Lee. #fakenews
|18. By: slick on 05-01-2010 22:37:24|
Ryan Doumit is possible dont how much it would cost but the pirates rotation is horrible and there bullpen is not much better. If the Reds fall out maybe Scott Rolen he could help. Going out on a limb but whats up with Joe Crede and Cuban IFA Ruiz.
|19. By: DAMellen on 05-01-2010 23:08:39|
Tonya Harding is in Yacolt, Washington where she is dating my girlfriend's grandfather. Seriously. I hadn't even considered this before, but I suppose if the situation's really gotten this dire, I can make a call...
|20. By: Jason A. Churchill on 05-02-2010 00:58:41|
Doumit is currently all Pitt has at C. You'd have to overpay right now to get him. And he's not a rental, so he'd cost even more.
Plus, he's NOT a good catcher at all, so he'd be DH'ing in Seattle.
He would not even be on my radar.
|21. By: safecochatter on 05-02-2010 09:44:11|
16 - one has to dream,thay's where ideas come from. Ethier would be a great fit indeed. there is allways a three way trade. i don't know if guys read the quotes from Lee's agent,after his friday debut. he basically says there should be about 15 teams bidding for Lee this offseason. Mariners won't play that game.
give Lee about 9/10 starts and Bedard 3/4 starts. and things look a little different. and i don't think there will be anyone in the marinerland that will have a problem trading Lee for offense. and you still have a nice rotation.
|22. By: Marlin Man on 05-02-2010 09:55:50|
Hey Z----- ain't like we is second guessing ya about needing a REAL bat to get anywhere with the goodpitching ya got going----- hell we were all saying it BEFORE the season
What the hell are you doing about it Z???
Maybe he ain't the GM we were all hoping he was.
Do something Z, before our opportunity is this suck Division is gone.
|23. By: brockfs1 on 05-02-2010 11:13:04|
Jason, did u get my rankings?
|24. By: rjfrik on 05-02-2010 12:17:52|
About Eithier. Would C. Lee, A. Moore and prospect (how about Peguero) get it done in your opinion?
|25. By: JHamlin22 on 05-02-2010 15:39:03|
Why would Wakamatsu not bunt with runners on first and second and Jose Lopez up in the 9th inning with no outs? Who cares if it's our four hitter. He would be a 6th or 7th hitter on any other team. Yes, I know Lopez got unlucky with the line drive double play, but that is still ridiculous. We need an insurance run, not a 3 run homerun. I don't understand that at all.
|26. By: littlelinny6 on 05-02-2010 16:33:21|
Well, I'd expect some roster moves on the off day tomorrow.
DFA Brynes and Sweeney. I think these are reasonable moves and both guys have had time to show their worth on this roster. Sweeney could maybe go to the DL to save face. You can't have a bench where you have Sweeney (hurt), Griffey (can't hit), Moore (backup C), and Tui (can't play anywhere on the field).
Call up Langerhans and Carp as stopgaps. Ideally there would be a trade out there for someone but I just don't see it.
|27. By: Jason A. Churchill on 05-02-2010 17:15:47|
Not today, no. Not for either team.
|28. By: Edman on 05-02-2010 19:00:34|
Awwwwwwwwwkkkkkkkkkkk......not Langerhans. Last I saw, his glove can't produce hits. They aren't losing games because of outfield defense, but they are losing with a lack of offense.
Lopez trying to hit a homerun? Would have been a mighty weak attempt. He was trying to hit the ball to the right side, to move the runners up. It's similar to bunting in it's application.
Perhaps Wak should have had him bunt, but just what does that have to do with Lopez being the #4 hitter? That means nothing to Wak. He's had power-hitters attempt to lay down bunts in the past. I somehow doubt that his thought was that Lopez is an exception to that rule. Perhaps, he thought Lopez had a greater chance of success if he tried to hit to the right side? Maybe?
|29. By: acqb1424 on 05-02-2010 20:14:10|
Not that he would fix the offense but what do you think of Alex Gordon as a buy low candidate? Would the royals be willing to move him?
|30. By: Adam T on 05-02-2010 22:25:58|
With Langerhans up and Byrnes gone, and hopefully Sweeney out the door, there's a need for a RH bat that can play LF, DH, and perhaps even play a little 1B to spell Kotch. I'd suggest Xavier Nady, who is getting squeezed on PT in the Cubs' OF.
But in any event, today's moves are in the right direction. I just don't want to see Lopez or Griffey hitting 4 and 5 in the lineup again.
|31. By: maqman on 05-03-2010 08:18:42|
KC would probably be glad to get rid of Jose Guillen’s contract, which is $12MM this season and he’s hit 7 HRs and is batting .293. David DeJesus is owed about a total of $11MM for 2010 and 2011; he’s hitting .277 average with a .348 OBP, 3HR and 11 RBI. Another possibility is to trade Cliff Lee back to the Phils for Jayson Werth, who is hitting .345, with 3HRs and 12 doubles. It doesn’t look like we can sign Lee after this season or that they can re-sign Werth. With Fister, Vargas and French looking good so far this season and Bedard on the horizon we could compete with the added thump. We are fairly well stocked with ML ready relievers to trade and if we take on contracts should not lose too much talent off the farm.
|32. By: Edman on 05-03-2010 09:44:35|
I doubt either Guillen or Werth are any where near a possibility. Guillen was a bad outfielder when he was here and he's not improved.
JZ values pitching too much to give up Lee, especially after one start. The draft picks or trade potential for him at the deadline makes it prohibative to move him now.
Griffey's staying, and perhap Sweeney moves to the DL. Help is going to have to come from the outside. Moore is the catcher of the future, but I think Seattle would be better off to go after a catcher who can hit. It's a huge void right now. Neither Johnson or Moore are even league average hitters. If there was more offense elsewhere on the roster, they could afford to let Moore develop. I just don't think they have much choice.
I would look for someone like, as Adam suggests, Nady, who doesn't have a clear role. Bradley's going to be in LF part-time.
|33. By: JHamlin22 on 05-03-2010 09:58:10|
Edman - Trying to hit the ball to the right side with people on first and second is the same as bunting? Seriously? Hitting the ball to the right side of the infield would turn into a double play. Are you serious? You try to hit the ball to the right side if there is only a guy on second base, but not on first and second. The only right thing to do in that situation is to bunt.
|34. By: Edman on 05-03-2010 10:42:34|
Sure, okay JHamlin, it "could" turn into a double play, not is "would" turn into a double play. It depends on where it's it. Just likc a third-strike fouled bunt attempt could turn into a strikeout. Or, a pop-up bunt turn into a double play, if the runners are sent.
It's not as simple as you seem to think it is. Sure, I'd have liked him to bunt too. But, Wak may have thought that Lopez has enough bat control to put the ball in a place on the right side, that would allow both runners to move up.
What bothered me about your statement was that you drew a conclusion that Wak didn't have Lopez bunt, because he was the clean-up hitter. From all I've seen of Wak, it's not in his charactor to play the game based on "traditional" roles.
And, let's put the blame where it really is. Aardsma committed the worse error of all.....walking the Ranger's best base stealer. THAT lost the game. I'm more upset by the apparent lack of focus in game situations, by the bullpen, than anything to do with Jose' Lopez.
|35. By: brockfs1 on 05-03-2010 23:47:06|
Jason, do u think Ty Wigginton is a possibility since he can play multiple positions as hes a decent right handed bat
|36. By: Decatur on 05-04-2010 03:59:18|
Atlanta is platooning Nate McLouth right now - if they stay out of contention, would they consider moving him? They seem more interested in clearing payroll that most teams (see the Vazquez trade). He makes about $6 mil this year, $6mil in 2011, and has a $10mil option for 2012. Is it realistic that we could trade Saunders and another prospect for McLouth? I think McLouth represents Saunders absolute ceiling (borderline all-star, but with a better bat and worse glove) right now, so is 2 1/2 years of McLouth for $20ish million worth giving up 6 cost-controlled years of Saunders?
Like brockfst1, I'm also curious about Wiggington ($3.5 mil) and Miguel Tejada ($6 mil) on the Orioles.
|37. By: mykillmagnum on 05-04-2010 09:01:23|
Jason, I've got two players to ask you about... grady sizemore, could he become availible and do the mariners have enough to get him? I think he would be a perfect fit in left. Also alex gordon, is he done? I read jc sent him to the minors and are moving him to left field. Could he be someone the ms can get cheap, play him at third and then put together a package of lopez and pineda to get sizemore? Or is gordon done?
|38. By: Edman on 05-04-2010 09:44:30|
Not much chance of making a deal for one of those kind of players, without overspending. Nobody's selling right now.
|39. By: shortstop9 on 05-04-2010 13:58:35|
How about Phillips from the Reds.They have a 2b on the rise and we really need a legit 3-4 hitter.Move Figgy back to 3B and DH/1B Lopez
|40. By: StandinPat on 05-04-2010 14:52:38|
Phillips is only a slightly above average bat, in the NL and in a Hitters park. Bring him to Safeco, and your prob looking at an average bat at best. Add in the remaining $10 mil or so he's owed for the rest of the year, plus the prospects you'd have to give up to get him, and there's literally no reason you'd make that move. Lopez has taken to 3B very well and Figgins has flashed great range at 2B, so it's not like your gonna see a huge boost to your IF defense. Carp could come up right now and be roughly average and doesn't cost you a dime.
|41. By: Edman on 05-05-2010 17:24:12|
Get your eyes off of Sizemore, Phillips, et al. If there is help to come from outside the organization, you're probably looking for a AAAA player like Jack Cust, that's stuck in AAA. And that, quite frankly, won't be enough.
Alex Gordon is a possibility, but he'd be an investment, not a fix.
The stark reality is, we fix it from within, or it's probably not going to get done.
|42. By: brockfs1 on 05-05-2010 18:49:08|
Would Chris Snyder C from Arizona be a possibility? hed be an upgrade on the offensive end!
|43. By: StandinPat on 05-05-2010 18:59:07|
"Would Chris Snyder C from Arizona be a possibility? hed be an upgrade on the offensive end!"
Check some depth charts people. Snyder is their only catching option until Montero comes off the DL and proves he's healthy enough to be their starting C again, which may be a while. He's also gonna cost an arm and a leg.
Best bet is looking at teams out of it already that need to continue to go young. Players whose deals expire after 2011 and aren't part of a young core. David DeJesus and Luke Scott make some sense. Maaaaybe Corey Hart if the Brewers fall much more behind, or James Loney if you swap the Dodgers some pitching. But with most middle to big market teams, they still feel they have a shot, even if they are 4-5 GB. There's no way they are giving you a major league contributor until late June, July.
|44. By: brockfs1 on 05-05-2010 19:04:09|
i was thinking when montero came back... proably should've stated that. MY BAD! and i just looked and hes due 5.2 mil a little bit out of our range for an average offensive C
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