|By Adam H. Wong||By 06-20-2012|
|1. By: Boy9988 on 06-20-2012 22:15:07|
There are three places on the field where it is ok to sacrifice offense in favor of defense. SS, CF, and C. I'm ok with the idea that we have Ryan and Guti on the team, regardless of their offensive value as long as they can hold the title as "Best Defender in the game at their position." I say we keep Ryan and if nothing else, leave him as the late game replacement that Kawasaki currently holds. Ryan is ridiculously good at what he does, and should be held onto.
|2. By: marinerforever on 06-20-2012 22:23:35|
Any chance franklin duplicates aa sucess in aaa he gets the september call up
|3. By: short on 06-20-2012 22:40:20|
Does the fact that Olivo is better at looking lost both at and behind the plate mean we should keep him too? But, seriously, I was wondering if you thought the team would be moving Brad Miller up to Jackson now that Franklin has moved on. He seems the natural candidate, at least with the bat. Are Miller's errors (21) a concern that could hold him back?
|4. By: Adam B. on 06-20-2012 23:57:56|
I would bet some folding money that Franklin will at least be up for a September cup of coffee; If not much sooner as Mr. Wong pointed out.
As nice as it will be to have an actual stick at short, there is definite value to having Ryan's defensive value in the teams back pocket. Situations like the Dee Gordan out during the no-hitter make Ryan's contributions quite evident.
If the Mariners could sign Ryan to another 2-yr/3M contract, it would be a boon for the team. A contingency in case of injury/under-performance (Leather doesn't slump...) and best case, a quality glove off the bench.
|5. By: docsmith on 06-21-2012 04:13:43|
I like it. Sign Ryan for 2 yrs at $3-3.5 per. Similar to the Vargas discussion earlier, the M's need to transition plan to the kids. Plus, as you say, Ryan is more than just a place holder, he is the best defensive SS in the game.
Only issue will be ABs. We are developing talent at each IF position. So, do we simply rotate Seagar, Ryan, Ackley, and Franklin at 3B, SS, 2B and occasionally 1B? This doesn't even consider Liddi or Catricala. Because of the AB issue, I can see the logic of M's going 1 or 2 yrs on Ryan.
Personally, I am hoping Franklin gets a Sept call up and then to see him up for good ~next July or even 2014. No reason to start his clock too early. As it stands, he is what, 21 now?
|6. By: Jerry on 06-21-2012 06:58:43|
I think it's odd that people project offensive performance, but not defense. Remember when almost everyone thought it was crazy to have Ackley play 2B, and said he'd have to really hit to make up for subpar D. But he's been solid, if not spectacular there. Montero seems to be sticking at C, and most thought his best case scenario there was brutal. It's funny reading projections, because most seem to expect hitting (especially power) to improve, but defense to decline.
Judging on all the scouting reports, it seems like Franklin is way ahead of Ackley and Montero. Is it unreasonable to expect him to improve a bit? If he is average or slightly above, and hits .280/.350/.450 with 20 sbs, that's a very good player.
|7. By: micahjr on 06-21-2012 13:43:09|
Hitting .280/.350/.450 at SS is not "a very good player," that is a potential all-star.
|8. By: firstname.lastname@example.org on 06-21-2012 15:12:31|
Jason or anyone else wnating to chime in, what are peoples views on Ackley, Montero, and Smoak as far as called up too early or not? I remeber years ago when they called up Edgar and it seemed like M's waited way too long for him.
I don't think M's will wait too long for this batch but what are determining factors? With the movement of Hultzen and Franklin up to AAA, they were no longer challenged in AA....Maybe I just answered my own question...that they are dominant and when they are not challenged then bring 'em up.
I also remember time when M's had hardly any home grown position players on the roster. At least any that mattered. Z has brought change....hooray
|9. By: Adam H. Wong on 06-22-2012 08:43:34|
If Franklin rakes in the PCL like in did in the SL, once he gets the call to the majors he'll stay there.
If the M's are looking to be competitive in 2013/2014, Franklin needs those big league at-bats.
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