| By Jason A. Churchill | ![]() | By 02-24-2011 |
The 2011 Draft is filled with talent, questions, and even fewer answers than a year ago despite being the deepest class in at least three years, and probably the best since 2005. But this class is like no other it more than one way, starting with the rules changes made by the good 'ole NCAA.| Sonny Gray, RHP -- Vanderbilt | |||||||||||||||||||
| Year | G/GS | IP | ERA | H | HR | SO | BB | ||||||||||||
| 2010 | 19/16 | 108.2 | 3.48 | 92 | 4 | 113 | 48 | ||||||||||||
| Matt Purke, LHP -- TCU | |||||||||||||||||||
| Year | G/GS | IP | ERA | H | HR | SO | BB | ||||||||||||
| 2010 | 20/18 | 116.1 | 3.48 | 91 | 6 | 142 | 34 | ||||||||||||
| Matt Barnes, RHP -- UCONN | |||||||||||||||||||
| Year | G/GS | IP | ERA | H | HR | SO | BB | ||||||||||||
| 2010 | 15/13 | 82.2 | 3.92 | 79 | 6 | 75 | 25 | ||||||||||||
| George Springer, OF -- UCONN | |||||||||||||||||||
| Year | AVG | OBP | SLG | HR | BB | SO | SB | ||||||||||||
| 2010 | .337 | .491 | .668 | 18 | 60 | 70 | 33 | ||||||||||||
| Anthony Rendon, 3B -- Rice | |||||||||||||||||||
| Year | AVG | OBP | SLG | HR | BB | SO | SB | ||||||||||||
| 2010 | .394 | .539 | .801 | 26 | 65 | 22 | 14 | ||||||||||||
| Jackie Bradley, Jr, OF -- South Carolina | |||||||||||||||||||
| Year | AVG | OBP | SLG | HR | BB | SO | SB | ||||||||||||
| 2010 | .368 | .473 | .587 | 13 | 41 | 37 | 7 | ||||||||||||
Starling (pictured at right) is a prospect as a pitcher and hitter, and one scouting coordinator I spoke to recently called him "somewhat like (Mike) Trout, but bigger, more projectable, probably a better arm." That's saying something, but it's just a comparison of physical tools at this point. Starling might be a better prospect as a bat and centerfielder, and if he hints he'll sign, he could go in the top few picks.| Pacific Northwest Top 10 | |||||||||||||||||||
| No. | Player, Pos. | School | |||||||||||||||||
| 1 | Adam Conley, LHP | Washington State | |||||||||||||||||
| 2 | Andrew Susac, C | Oregon State | |||||||||||||||||
| 3 | Dylan Davis, RHP | Redmond HS (Wash.) | |||||||||||||||||
| 4 | Tyler Anderson, LHP | Oregon | |||||||||||||||||
| 5 | Ryan Carpenter, LHP | Gonzaga | |||||||||||||||||
| 6 | Scott McGough, RHP | Oregon | |||||||||||||||||
| 7 | Blake Snell, LHP | Shorewood HS (Wash.) | |||||||||||||||||
| 8 | Michael Conforto, 3B | Redmond HS (Wash.) | |||||||||||||||||
| 9 | Josh Osich, LHP | Oregon State | |||||||||||||||||
| 10 | Porter Clayton, LHP/1B | Bonneville HS (Idaho) | |||||||||||||||||
| 1. By: acqb1424 on 02-25-2011 08:28:45 Awesome article Jason and gets me even more excited about the draft! The tidbits about the Pirates and Boras were interesting to hear, especially considering he is "advising" three of the top talents. Will be really interesting to see what happens. |
| 2. By: marinermutt on 02-25-2011 10:34:27 Good stuff Jason. How did Rendon hurt his ankle a second time. Must of missed that. Same ankle? Thanks, |
| 3. By: Jason A. Churchill on 02-25-2011 11:34:51 Same ankle, different injury. He tore ligaments the first time -- in the Super Regionals in 2009 -- last summer he suffered two fractures and a dislocation while in a rundown versus South Korea. |
| 4. By: Swervnburn on 02-25-2011 12:15:12 Jason, Why are baseball players allowed to sign with agents while still in school? |
| 5. By: eknpdx on 02-25-2011 12:29:45 Interesting scenario you posed for the M's. I know in the chat you thought Cole could make a splash as early as 2012, could the same be said about Rendon? BTW, I hate ankle injuries. They usually take the longest to heal, and you never heal just right. There's something also to be said about both ankles having injuries, making you ask if he has physiological issue. Are you suggesting Jackey Bradley could hit his way into top 3 pick discussions? Or was that simply to point out he's earning a 1st round consideration? |
| 6. By: mymrbig on 02-25-2011 13:06:36 Jason, your BB and K for Rendon are backwards. His BB/K ratio last year was 65/22 last year, not the other way around. And yes, he had more HR than K. |
| 7. By: Jason A. Churchill on 02-25-2011 13:26:46 Thanks, let me fix that, big. eknpdx, I just like Bradley as a top-10 candidate, not much more than that. I might take him as high as five or six, depending on his showing this spring. Swervburn, They aren't. They have verbal agreements with "advisors" acting as legal counsel. And why shouldn't player be allowed to flat out hire agents while still in school? They are U.S. Citizens with the right to have qualified representation when negotiating a contract just like the rest of us. The NCAA are just a bunch of Nazi bastards and light up a player, almost always Boras clients, when they feel they have enough evidence. Oliver, Paxton ... It's bogus B.S., and the government should have stepped in and done the right thing two years ago. but, of course, they did not. |
| 8. By: maqman on 02-25-2011 13:28:22 A lot is going to depend on who does what between now and June and whether the M's favor pitching or a great bat. I like Springer at this point if Rendon is the first pick and prefer Purke to Cole if they go for an arm. |
| 9. By: d2ret on 02-25-2011 13:38:53 Hello Jason. I have not received my handbook yet, as a lifetime subscriber. Can you help? I'm starting to get snappy towards those closest to me. |
| 10. By: safecochatter on 02-25-2011 13:56:30 Nazi Bastards....I Love It!! Sometimes they make the US Senate look like choir boys.. |
| 11. By: Jason A. Churchill on 02-25-2011 14:02:53 Ha... d2ret -- email me, I'll reply with the book! maqman, There is zero rationale for preferring Purke over Cole right now. Cole has better stuff, similar command, fewer concerns over size, durability and arm slot. He also has a fallback in case injury or derailed development that Purke does not have -- closing. Also, Purke is a sophomore-eligible, which means he's going to be as tough a sign as Cole, probably tougher, since he has the leverage to go back for a his junior season and probably be a top 3 pick. |
| 12. By: eknpdx on 02-25-2011 14:09:50 JAC, your thoughts on Ricky Oropesa and is he around when the M's get their second pick? |
| 13. By: johnfree on 02-25-2011 14:30:53 Jason, I get to watch Texas vs Hawaii this weekend. Who are some players outside of Taylor Jungmann and Kolten Wong to watch? |
| 14. By: CyFelix on 02-25-2011 14:38:40 From a mock I've seen, All of the NW players will be available at 62. I may have to actually watch the top 2, but both would fill system holes. Do you think both would be there at 62, or only 3-10 will be at 62? Along with that where do you expect the top 5 to be at. |
| 15. By: rocketdawg31 on 02-25-2011 15:12:22 Eknpdx, Good call, I've got my eyes on Oropesa, too. He and Jason Esposito are both players I'd love to get with that pick #62 (second round). I'll defer to what Jason says on their availability, but my best guess is both are gone by pick #50. Since big-time college bats (that could help out at the big leagues soon) are the weakest part of this draft, my horse sense says that teams will "git those while the gittin' is good". But this draft is so deep in most areas, that we should get something good for the org with that pick. Literally any player could help out, even if it's a prep arm that you have to buy out of a college commit. |
| 16. By: Lonnie on 02-25-2011 15:15:03 Jason, The new bats intrigue me. Following the logical (to me) chain of events, it would seem that what this change will do is open the door for more fringy pitchers who will be able to use their mediocre stuff and challenge batters more. Pitchers with real talent will naturally rise to the top, but there will be more, IMHO pitchers who in years past would have gone in later rounds showing up in the early rounds. How does the bat change effect scouting in general? It would appear to me that there will be more need for players to be looked at more critically than in years past. Perhaps even a change to the rating scale? Another thing that I can see happening is guys who produce with the new bat will step over "toolsy" guys with more projectability. Lonnie |
| 17. By: rocketdawg31 on 02-25-2011 15:15:46 To borrow from Brian Bosworth, circa 1986: NCAA- National Communists Against Athletes. That's probably too strong. But they're bastards, through and through. |
| 18. By: tres_arboles on 02-25-2011 15:52:12 PI wrote: "They have verbal agreements with "advisors" acting as legal counsel. ... They are U.S. Citizens with the right to have qualified representation when negotiating a contract just like the rest of us." Jason, I really enjoy your stuff but what you've written above is incorrect. Until his rights are aqcuired through the draft (or he becomes a free agent by going undrafted after exhausting collegiate eligibility), there's nothing to negotiate. So why would a student-athlete need an agent? Predraft, a student-athlete can have a relationship with an agent in the "advisor" capacity you mention. Being an advisor has nothing to do with "legal counsel;" advisors provide a service preparing the potential draftee's family as they approach the athlete's transition from student-athlete to professional. As soon as his rights are acquired or he becomes a free agent, an athlete can hire an agent to negotiate contracts and provide all the other services they do as "agents." What would be the point of allowing agency before then? Negotiating book prices for the athlete at the school co-op? Negotiating a preferrable dorm room or for better food at the student union? And how would the agent be compensated for these services? With a small piece of the athletes (already small piece in baseball) scholarship? |
| 19. By: csiems on 02-25-2011 15:55:36 Wait, are they Nazis or Communists? They probably at least have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood... Oh. My. God. [pulls out chalkboard; starts crying] "NCAA" is practically an anagram for "ACORN"! |
| 20. By: baseballman on 02-25-2011 16:48:20 RE 19: Hope you didnt spend too long thinking of that cuz it wasnt even remotely humorous... Back to the topic at hand. Great stuff JAC. June cant come soon enough. Im excited either way because this team has a chance at a MOR bat or a TOR SP, either of which we need desperately. |
| 21. By: Jason A. Churchill on 02-25-2011 17:41:32 tres, You are incorrect. The player should have the right to get professional advice on whether to sign or not. Nobody has the right to tell them WHEN that process takes place. And they are STILL student athletes after they are drafted as soph-eligibles and juniors, so your POV is full of holes, my friend. The players don't withdraw from school just before or after they are drafted. That process takes several days, and they start negotiating sometimes within hours. If you are a US Citizen, you have the right to be represented. The NCAA is so far off base it's not even funny. |
| 22. By: Jason A. Churchill on 02-25-2011 17:45:11 eknpdx, Oropesa, based on talent, should be around after round 1. He might, however, be an idea pick for a club that has several picks, including one or more comp round selections. Other than Jungmann, Cole Green is a nice senior sign, and if he gets healthy and right, Austin Dicharry has a good arm, but he's a mess right now. Austin Wood at USC is a relief prospect, but he lacks secondary stuff. Andrew Triggs is a second day prospect, and for 2013, catcher Jake Hernandez. |
| 23. By: Jason A. Churchill on 02-25-2011 17:47:39 Lonnie, It's really quite simple. What you see in college is more what you get now than a year ago. There's less guessing. And no, later round talent aren't going to go earlier in the draft, but the creme will rise to the top. |
| 24. By: StandinPat on 02-25-2011 20:52:03 "Until his rights are aqcuired through the draft (or he becomes a free agent by going undrafted after exhausting collegiate eligibility), there's nothing to negotiate." That's weird, because I'm pretty sure players move up or down draft boards based on signability and "bonus demands." How could that be the case if those talks only come about after a player's "right's are acquired?" How did the M's have a pre-draft deal with Baron? And really, why shouldn't a player be allowed to seek counsel for a process he is about to undertake? It's asinine to suggest said player has to wait until he's drafted, and the process is mostly over. |
| 25. By: sexymarinersfan on 02-26-2011 12:45:42 Good article. I've been lobbying for George Springer for months now. I'm glad to see that he's finally starting to get some regular attention. Before it was just Cole. But if I'm right about Springer I think he will be a major contributor at the next level and a future All-Star as well. He'd be a perfect fit in RF to take over for Ichiro when he our beloved retires. Cole wouldn't be a bad selection either to add to the slew of young arms that we already have stockpiled in King and Pineda. He's projected as a future Ace and would give us a chance to compete everynight out. But if Anthony Rendon is still on the board, for whatever wierd reason, which I doubt he will be, then I believe he heads and shoulders the most solid #1 overall choice in the draft. Who wouldn't want a young infield that consisted of 1B Justin Smoak, 2B Dustin Ackley, SS Nick Franklin, and 3B Anthony Rendon to build off of. That's pretty solid right there. |
| 26. By: Timberwolf on 02-26-2011 15:00:27 The idea that the athletes should be free to have business relationships with anybody of their choice is very dangerous. Having guys on agent or shoe company payrolls is a nightmare and strips away everything that makes college athletics great. Look at how much damage having Phil Knight and T. Boone Pickens owning their own athletic departments(if not universities) has been. The NCAA system has plenty of idiotic rules that penalize teams for giving players from poor families trips home to see their sick parents. Requiring athletes to declare their professionalism and lose their eligibility isn't one of them. The current system works great for kids from middle class families and kids who clearly have no future in "going pro". To destroy it to benefit Scot Boras and the 100 most gifted athletes in the country would be a disastrous mistake. 95% of the problems in college athletics would be solved if they allowed kids to borrow money equivalent to the Federal Stafford Loan levels. Have them guaranteed by the professional sports leagues and unions, instead of the federal government and have those entities also sanction an insurance program that the players can access for injury protection. |
| 27. By: redpine on 02-27-2011 10:05:43 |
| 28. By: redpine on 02-27-2011 10:06:44 Jason, Still waiting for handbook. Thanks in advance. |
| 29. By: Kryten on 02-28-2011 16:45:36 I know it isn't the same as college athletics (and I don't want to further that debate), but this does remind me of the Olympics before they recently allowed pros. The Olympics are the ultimate contest to pit the very best athletes on earth against each other-- except for those who are good enough to make a living at it. |
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