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At the top of this year’s draft, again, is Tampa Bay, who selected Vanderbilt left-hander David Price with the first pick. And again, a Vanderbilt prospect is considered a candidate for the top spot.
Pedro Alvarez is the best pure hitter in the draft, according to most scouts, and a few even believe he can stick at third, which is contrary to what’s been reported so matter-of-factly by Baseball America and other outlets over the past year.
He’s a right-handed power bat with plus bat speed, great plate coverage and the ability to make good, consistent contact with a line drive stroke that will produce big time power.
But Alvarez is represented by Scott Boras, and his asking price is believed to be in the neighborhood of $9 million, which is likely to scare off as many as 10 teams right at the top of the draft.
Boras also represents Eric Hosmer, another corner bat with limitless potential at the plate, including what one scout called “the best bat speed in the draft in five years.” Boras may ask for as much as $7 million for Hosmer, or at least those are the pre-draft numbers being thrown around.
[I’d bet both Alvarez and Hosmer sign for at least a little bit less than those tallies above]
But if Tampa passes on Alvarez, Griffin HS (Ga.) shortstop Tim Beckham may be the choice. No word on whether the Rays might look to lean a little bit toward a position player with the top pick, due to the fact that their pitching is currently so deep from the bigs down to A ball.
Tampa is also expected to consider Florida State catcher Buster Posey, whom I like a lot, and Missouri right-hander Aaron Crow, whom I personally think has better stuff than Price.
If I were the Rays, Crow would be my choice, without a doubt. If they prefer a bat and want to go the college route, it’s possible that South Carolina first baseman Justin Smoak, who has one of the sweetest power swings you’ll ever seen, is their best alternative to Alvarez and his bonus demands.
It’s difficult to imagine Pittsburgh going cheap with their pick this time around, since their new management is in place and they are trying to build some confidence in their fan base.
Posey makes some sense here, and might be their pick, but the Bucs are years from contention, which would lead me toward pitching. I think they go Posey here, but Melville could be on their radar as well.
If Kansas City has a shot at Crow and passes, I will buy the world a Coke. That would shock me. They’ve scouted him very heavily, and their disappointment in ‘06 No. 1 pick Luke Hochevar should help them avoid a comfort zone with their young pitching.
Crow would fit nicely into their rotation in mid-’09 with Meche, Greinke, top prospect Daniel Cortes and possibly Hochevar.
Baltimore could go in one of many directions, but I am hearing they really like Posey, Gordon Beckham, Smoak and Hosmer, and might be the first team n the draft to blink on Boras’ demands for Alvarez.
If the O’s go with Alvarez, Smoak or Hosmer, the San Francisco Giants could go forward with Gordon Beckham, and if Tim Beckham is still on the board, he’d likely be their choice. But as much as their scouting director and staff want to get more athletic up the middle, it’s hard to imagine they’d pass on Hosmer or Smoak if one were available.
And if Sabean gets the okay, they might break some bank out for Alvarez.
The Marlins, remaining predictable, would likely go with either of the Beckham’s or prep right-hander’s Melville or Gerrit Cole. If Hosmer is available, he’s a candidate to go sixth to Florida, too.
The first reach in the draft might happen at No. 10 with the hapless Houston Astros, who have bad leadership, a terrible GM and no direction whatsoever. Tanner Schepper is a nice arm with a No. 2 upside, in the scenario below, Alvarez, Galloway, Wallace, Alonso and Skipworth are all available at that spot.
[By the way, if Washington snags Melville at No. 9, wow, but it really could happen.]
Texas should be looking pitching, if all else is fairly equal on their board, and Oakland could go in any direction. They have become less predictable the past few years, and Skipworth makes sense for them as there are questions about Kurt Suzuki’s ability to catch long term.
Tyler Ross, Schepper, left-hander Christian Freiderich and first baseman Brett Wallace also make sense for Oakland.
The Mets have two picks in the first round, Nos. 18 and 22 overall. If Wallace or Alvarez slide this far, that might be an easy choice for the Mets, who also adore Gordon Beckham.
Isaac Galloway might make some sense here, but with two picks it sounds like in the below scenario the Mets would prefer to split their selections between an arm and a bat. If Skipworth is available, he might go at 18.
If not, Josh Field, the top closer in the draft, could be the pick, too. That is, if he doesn’t go in the top 10 to a team just trying to make sure they get a signable player.
The Cincinnati Reds might be that team at No. 7, and fields may not last past Oakland at 12 or the Brewers at 16.
And M’s fans better hope he doesn’t get past the Cubs at No. 19. If he does, the Seattle Mariners might be drafting another reliever in the first round.
I’m telling you - they LOVE Fields. Lot’s to love, but on the 08-10 M’s squads, he’s just a setupman. A good one with a mid-90s heater and a wicked 84-86 mph slider. He possesses very good command at present, too, so he’s not a project and is probably going to pitch in the big leagues in 2008.
But, I honestly don’t think he’s going to be there when the Mariners choose. Too many teams right in front of Seattle make a lot of sense for Fields.
There’s a decent chance that either Wallace or Alonso last to 20, and Seattle likes them both, though they also have a thing for shortstop Niko Vazquez, right-handers Shooter Hunt and Brett Hunter, and left-hander Brett Devall.
Seattle is expected to pass on high school pitchers in round one, possibly unless Melville falls that far, and is scouting the college ranks much more aggressively than the prepsters as the draft approaches.
Alonso has good bat speed with a nice bat path creating good loft without sacrificing contact. He’s fanned just 20 times in over 200 plate appearances this season, and has drawn 53 bases on balls.
He’s got pretty good feet, too, and at 6-2 and 220, is just about what you want out of a first baseman physically. His power potential could land him at 30+ homers with a high doubles output.
It’d be a minor miracle if he fell to Seattle at 20, but it’s not impossible. The 2008 draft is pretty deep in corner bats and amazingly, considering Alonso’s .384/.550/.775 line on the nation’s top team, the University of Miami star does not grade out as high as Alvarez, Hosmer, Smoak, and even Wallace.
Wallace is well-liked as well, but clubs have concerns about Wallace’s long-term conditioning and how that may hinder him defensively.
| 2008 Mock Draft 1.0 | |||||||||||||||||||
| No. | Team | Player |
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| 1 | Tampa Bay Rays | Tim Beckham, SS | |||||||||||||||||
| 2 | Pittsburgh Pirates |
Buster Posey, C | |||||||||||||||||
| 3 | Kansas City Royals |
Aaron Crow, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 4 | Baltimore Orioles | Justin Smoak, 1B | |||||||||||||||||
| 5 | San Francisco Giants |
Gordon Beckham, SS | |||||||||||||||||
| 6 | Florida Marlins |
Gerrit Cole, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 7 | Cincinnati Reds |
Brian Matusz, LHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 8 | Chicago White Sox | Eric Hosmer, 1B | |||||||||||||||||
| 9 | Washington Nationals | Tim Melville, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 10 | Houston Astros |
Tanner Schepper, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 11 | Texas Rangers |
Tyson Ross, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 12 | Oakland Athletics |
Kyle Skipworth, C | |||||||||||||||||
| 13 | St. Louis Cardinals |
Isaac Galloway, OF | |||||||||||||||||
| 14 | Minnesota Twins |
Daniel Webb, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 15 | Los Angeles Dodgers |
Christian Freiderich, LHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 16 | Milwaukee Brewers |
Pedro Alvarez, 1B | |||||||||||||||||
| 17 | Toronto Blue Jays |
Brett Wallace, 1B | |||||||||||||||||
| 18 | New York Mets | Josh Fields, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 19 | Chicago Cubs |
Niko Vazquez, SS | |||||||||||||||||
| 20 | Seattle Mariners |
Yonder Alonso, 1B | |||||||||||||||||
| 21 | Detroit Tigers |
Dennis Raben, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 22 | New York Mets |
Shooter Hunt, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 23 | San Diego Padres | Sonny Gray, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 24 | Philadelphia Phillies |
Aaron Hicks, OF | |||||||||||||||||
| 25 | Colorado Rockies |
Alex Meyer, RHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 26 | Arizona Diamondbacks |
Jemile Weeks, 2B | |||||||||||||||||
| 27 | Minnesota Twins |
Brett Devall, LHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 28 | New York Yankees |
Jarett Martin, LHP | |||||||||||||||||
| 29 | Cleveland Indians |
Harold Martinez, SS/3B | |||||||||||||||||
| 30 | Boston Red Sox |
Pete Paramore, C | |||||||||||||||||


I only hope that we luck out like last year and either the reliever the M’s like has already been selected or someone that they really like and didn’t expect to be available falls to #20. From what I have read I like Alonso a lot; I just think that the M’s offense has been so pathetic combined with the fact that Sexson has been a bust and will be moving on means that the Mariners HAVE to look for a young first baseman. Even if they move Ibanez to first he isn’t the answer.
Do you know if the M’s like Ike Davis or David Cooper? Basically I just want them to pick a left-handed 1st baseman at #20.
Haven’t heard much on Davis, but that’s probably just because I haven’t asked specifically.
Cooper no, at least not in round one.
They do like Raben, too, and he’s probably a 1B in the pro game.
By the way, that’s the last post, comment and question I will answer here at Prospect Insider for a few weeks.
The Farm Reports will continue, but I need a break — the draft stuff is draining, though fun — and I need a nice vacation from my brain overload before the draft comes.
If anyone would like to contribute, please email me at churchill@prospectinsider.com.
I’ll hand you a set of keys and a super quick walk-through on how to post something.
You can post quick thoughts or long thoughts on anything at all baseball related, Mariners or not, as long as it doesn’t contain any profanity.
Ask a question of the readers… whatever you want.
Otherwise, I’ll talk to all of you in 14 days when Mock Draft 2.0 is released, and we get down to some hot rumors.
Seattle already drafted a setup man.
In 2006. Like 5th pick overall, what’s his name.
Whoever they choose, it’s likely to be someone who will sign and move quickly, as in a polished college junior or senior. Alonso will fit the bill perfectly Jason and I hope you’re right if he falls.
1st Base is WIDE open for 2009. Like, Tom Petty wide open.
Thanks for your hard work Jason. I might be emailing about a chance to do a write up.
Maybe I’ll do a post on the ASU players, Davis, Wallace, Paramore, Satow. Whatever.
From listining to Bavasi on KJR a week or so ago, he seemed to imply pretty heavily that he wants Clement to learn first base, and be the back up catcher. Which now that Joh is here for three more years is an ok idea, but it makes me think that may have an effect on draftig Alonso, or Wallace. I personally hope not, it would be sweet to have a lefty 1B like Alonso, or Wallace in Safeco.
Also, if anyone knows much about Tyson Ross, I’d be curious to hear it. BA had him as a top 5 pick at the begining of the year, but now they have him going in the 20-30 range, but have not explained why his stock has dropped. Jason obviously thinks highly of him going at #11. Him and Fredrich are the only 2 pitchers I’d like to see the M’s draft in the first round.
Enjoy your break and get the battery recharged!
Enjoy your break and get the battery recharged!
He’d be off to a good start if you bought him that 6-pack of Heineken he keeps telling me you owe him…
I will pay him any time i see him and i might even by him a couple of bonus beers..lol
Shooter Hunt is an AMAZING name.
That’s some very interesting stuff. I would hope for either Alonso or Raben. A power bat feels really good about now.
I had a feeling that the M’s would be interested in Fields and all I can do is roll my eyes and groan.
I’m so pumped up for draft day!
By the way, who is the player in the above picture for this post. I’m curious.
Jason says the photo above is of Georgia closer Josh Fields
In Baseball America’s first mock draft, Jim Callis has us taking high school pitcher Tim Melville.
I think if Melville fell that far, they MIGHT consider him, but unless a no-brainer falls - not sure Melville is a no-brainer - they probably aren’t taking a prep pitcher.
By the way, Mock Draft 2.0 (of 5) will be out next Friday or so.
Wow, that BA mock draft looks like a worst case scenario type of thing. I guess in that situation if the M’s are staying away from prep pitchers like Jason said they’d probably take either Jamile Weeks, Raben, or Cooper. To bad they can’t afford a prep pitcher in the first because it seems like there will be a lot of good ones there.
It doesn’t seem like the crop of prep arms is very good this year so just because the M’s could have the pick of the litter doesn’t mean that those are the best available players. That being said I’d rather them choose a prep pitcher with starting upside than a college-bullpen arm.
For me I still think that choosing a potential left-handed hitting first baseman type is the way to go but the Mariners probably don’t see it that way. If Wallace is gone I want Ike Davis or David Cooper, maybe Raben.
I’d love for Melville to be the M’s pick but I don’t think he goes past the Dodgers who seem to love high school pitchers.
Furthermore, I didn’t like BA’s reasoning that the M’s would go after Melville because they got Aumont the year before.
I like Melville but I’m with the consensus around here that a power bat should be the target. I like Raben. I don’t know anything about Cooper. What could you guys tell me about him?
I think BA got that from the M’s, Slack. They’d prefer not to go the prep pitcher route again, but they would probably take Melville if he were truly the BPA.
But there are so many talents that a lot of clubs and scouts grade out similarly to Melville that the M’s aren’t likely to have to make the decision.
As far as a target… you target the best player available, Slack. You never draft for NEED. EVER. If you draft a player for his talent genre/position, your passing up better players, which means the club isn’t doing what’s best for them.
If they have several players graded out super super close and a power bat at 1B or the OF is among that group and is available, then fine. But don’t draft Cooper or Davis just to draft a power hitter.
And I don’t think Fields gets to the Mariners anyway. I can see one of the college arms (not Sonny Gray, he’s probably going to Vandy instead) being the pick, though probably not Shepper.
The M’s just figure they have enough starting pitching in A ball and would much prefer to add some in AA or AAA, or get offense.
But that doesn’t mean they won’t draft a Melville if he’s there.
Re: Melville
Heard that his last few starts didn’t go great, despite lots of Ks. Was high-80s a lot, some low-90s, and his breaking ball, a true curve I believe, wasn’t sharp.
He might drop past the M’s even due to the most recent reports and the fact that most scouts say his delivery needs to be revamped big time.
Looks like there is another closer that may go in the top part of the first round: TCU’s Andrew Cashner. He has some sick numbers going right now; in 43 innings he has allowed 14 hits and struck out 65 while holding the opponents to a .104 batting average. He apparently throws 97-98 MPH at times.
From some of the articles I have read he may be challenging Fields as the top college closer in the draft. I hope that doesn’t push Fields to the Mariners, I would rather have both of them go before the M’s and drop someone else to us.
I have no problem with the Mariners drafting a college pitcher. It just makes no sense in my mind to draft a bullpen arm in the first round. I think that would be a terrible value and unless you know for sure you are getting Mariano Rivera I think you’re better of using later rounds to come up with relievers.
They have a thing for Fields, not Cashner. At least so far.
But they do trust their Texas scout a ton.
Jason, sorry to go off topic, but is there anything to Halmans recent performance? 4 HR’s in three games with only 1 K. Have you heard if he’s changed his approach or anything like that?
Why would his approach have to have changed?
His numbers are the same.