Comments on: Projecting Balentien, Clement in 2008 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/ Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:33:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9527 Jason A. Churchill Tue, 06 May 2008 16:03:12 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9527 Re: Aumont They are stretching him out. That's what the piggybacking is for. He hadn't thrown more than 27 pitches in an appearance for almost a full calendar year. He'll be in the rotation this summer, as early as next month. Re: Wlad No. Re: Triunfel If he really wants to play short, and puts in the work, that's where he'll end up. Otherwise, he has the tools to play anywhere and a move to second, third, or the outfield would not be far fetched. Barring anything significant in either direction, I don't expect him to see the big-league regularly field until mid-2010 at the earliest, but I can see scenarios where he gets a September call-up next season. Re: Aumont

They are stretching him out. That’s what the piggybacking is for. He hadn’t thrown more than 27 pitches in an appearance for almost a full calendar year.

He’ll be in the rotation this summer, as early as next month.

Re: Wlad

No.

Re: Triunfel

If he really wants to play short, and puts in the work, that’s where he’ll end up.

Otherwise, he has the tools to play anywhere and a move to second, third, or the outfield would not be far fetched.

Barring anything significant in either direction, I don’t expect him to see the big-league regularly field until mid-2010 at the earliest, but I can see scenarios where he gets a September call-up next season.

]]> By: seattlebruin http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9526 seattlebruin Tue, 06 May 2008 15:48:54 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9526 Jason, With regards to Aumont, when do you see them start to stretch him out and use him as a starter rather than a piggyback guy out of the pen? Also, with regards to Wlad, do you see his future as being with this organization? From his (very very very very small) sample size, it looks like he's having a little trouble adjusting to ML-level pitching, but when he hits it, it goes. Are there any indications to you why he wouldn't have that same learning curve he displayed in the minors where he had trouble hitting the ball at first, but once he got it all figured out, he raked? Lastly, if you don't mind, where do you see Triunfel playing, position wise? Has he made progress so far this season, and what's his MLB ETA if everything goes according to plan? Sept 2010? Jason,

With regards to Aumont, when do you see them start to stretch him out and use him as a starter rather than a piggyback guy out of the pen?

Also, with regards to Wlad, do you see his future as being with this organization? From his (very very very very small) sample size, it looks like he’s having a little trouble adjusting to ML-level pitching, but when he hits it, it goes. Are there any indications to you why he wouldn’t have that same learning curve he displayed in the minors where he had trouble hitting the ball at first, but once he got it all figured out, he raked?

Lastly, if you don’t mind, where do you see Triunfel playing, position wise? Has he made progress so far this season, and what’s his MLB ETA if everything goes according to plan? Sept 2010?

]]> By: eknpdx http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9517 eknpdx Mon, 05 May 2008 19:35:17 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9517 Lip service to sell tickets???!!??? The Mariners!!!!!????? :shocked smiley: You know, bringing Jr. back is the dictionary definition of cash cow. Lip service to sell tickets???!!??? The Mariners!!!!!????? :shocked smiley:

You know, bringing Jr. back is the dictionary definition of cash cow.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9516 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 May 2008 19:16:49 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9516 I don't think a window ever closes for a team with a young pitcher like Felix and a payroll over 100 mil. And I don't believe they think it does, either. But they're so wrapped up in lining their pockets that the thought of another sub par year frightens them to death. But I also don't believe that they believe their 2-year window is it. I think that's just their way of selling tickets during that 2-year window. I don’t think a window ever closes for a team with a young pitcher like Felix and a payroll over 100 mil.

And I don’t believe they think it does, either.

But they’re so wrapped up in lining their pockets that the thought of another sub par year frightens them to death.

But I also don’t believe that they believe their 2-year window is it. I think that’s just their way of selling tickets during that 2-year window.

]]> By: eknpdx http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9515 eknpdx Mon, 05 May 2008 17:36:26 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9515 Jason, been meaning to ask you this for a while now. We know the FO sees this as the "win now" window. Do the expiring contracts suggest that the FO is thinking the window closes in 2009? Or do you get the feeling they think the window is longer than just these two seasons? Jason, been meaning to ask you this for a while now. We know the FO sees this as the “win now” window. Do the expiring contracts suggest that the FO is thinking the window closes in 2009?

Or do you get the feeling they think the window is longer than just these two seasons?

]]> By: yohnhimself http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9514 yohnhimself Mon, 05 May 2008 16:57:53 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9514 I only want you to be gone if you take Howard Lincoln with you and forget to bring him back. I only want you to be gone if you take Howard Lincoln with you and forget to bring him back.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9511 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 May 2008 08:42:36 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9511 Long live the dawg. Long live the dawg.

]]> By: dnc http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9510 dnc Mon, 05 May 2008 08:38:08 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9510 Lamda, you really believe there's "no reason" to believe he won't? I certainly think there's a chance, but I'm not confident in it by any means. He has too many health issues for me to count on him long term. Your "law of averages" about the pitchers we sent for Bedard could just as easily apply to Bedard's ailments. There's too many things that can jump up and bite him. I really hope I'm wrong, but I can't understand how someone who typically has an educated opinion such as yourself would believe there's no reason to doubt that he'll be dominant. I think you're homering out on this one. Lamda, you really believe there’s “no reason” to believe he won’t? I certainly think there’s a chance, but I’m not confident in it by any means. He has too many health issues for me to count on him long term. Your “law of averages” about the pitchers we sent for Bedard could just as easily apply to Bedard’s ailments. There’s too many things that can jump up and bite him.

I really hope I’m wrong, but I can’t understand how someone who typically has an educated opinion such as yourself would believe there’s no reason to doubt that he’ll be dominant.

I think you’re homering out on this one.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9509 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 May 2008 08:31:37 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9509 You lost me at Bedard. There are lots of reasons to believe he won't dominate for years to come. You lost me at Bedard.

There are lots of reasons to believe he won’t dominate for years to come.

]]> By: lamda http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9508 lamda Mon, 05 May 2008 08:20:50 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9508 lol.. you know what i meant by the unproven talent - lets not get into an english argument for crying out loud hehe. Besides - if Sherrill was on our team now he'd only be brought in to face LH batters and that would probably be it as that's all he was used for before. The people against the trade think we gave up too much for him while I disagree but it's an old argument. We most likely, playing the odds, gave up a reliever, OF'er and 1 pitcher for him as those 3 we gave up will not all make it to the big leagues and have good careers. Law of averages says 1 doesn't even make it, 1 falters and may or may not last, while one sticks. Also - no reason to believe that Bedard will not dominate for years to come - all that remains is the extension to be worked out and all is well. lol.. you know what i meant by the unproven talent - lets not get into an english argument for crying out loud hehe. Besides - if Sherrill was on our team now he’d only be brought in to face LH batters and that would probably be it as that’s all he was used for before.
The people against the trade think we gave up too much for him while I disagree but it’s an old argument. We most likely, playing the odds, gave up a reliever, OF’er and 1 pitcher for him as those 3 we gave up will not all make it to the big leagues and have good careers. Law of averages says 1 doesn’t even make it, 1 falters and may or may not last, while one sticks.
Also - no reason to believe that Bedard will not dominate for years to come - all that remains is the extension to be worked out and all is well.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9506 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 May 2008 06:43:41 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9506 sounds like yohn is looking forward to me being gone awhile. sounds like yohn is looking forward to me being gone awhile.

]]> By: 01v-dubs http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9505 01v-dubs Mon, 05 May 2008 06:15:56 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9505 lol no, but enjoy it. lol no, but enjoy it.

]]> By: yohnhimself http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9504 yohnhimself Mon, 05 May 2008 06:03:36 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9504 Take the M's front office with you. Take the M’s front office with you.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9503 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 May 2008 05:03:30 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9503 Looking forward to my lengthy break, eh? Looking forward to my lengthy break, eh?

]]> By: 01v-dubs http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9502 01v-dubs Mon, 05 May 2008 04:49:34 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2008/04/30/balentien-clement/#comment-9502 Thanks, I'm looking forward to it. Thanks, I’m looking forward to it.

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