Comments on: A Perfect Example http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/ Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:22:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Edtrak http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4907 Edtrak Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:58:18 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4907 Yep Yep

]]> By: randallball http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4906 randallball Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:28:45 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4906 They don't provide the exact contract figures for press releases - but that doesn't mean that the exact amount isn't verifiable through other sources. I assume that is the point some are arguing over here. They don’t provide the exact contract figures for press releases - but that doesn’t mean that the exact amount isn’t verifiable through other sources.

I assume that is the point some are arguing over here.

]]> By: marinerseric http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4905 marinerseric Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:14:35 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4905 They do relese them or the AP would never have any contract deals. They do relese them or the AP would never have any contract deals.

]]> By: Edtrak http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4904 Edtrak Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:59:14 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4904 I have no problem with rumors.....but that's all they are. To call them lies, when they are inaccurate is a hypocritical, in my opinion. I have no problem with rumors…..but that’s all they are. To call them lies, when they are inaccurate is a hypocritical, in my opinion.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4900 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:38:37 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4900 Sure you can, ed, because only the naive waits for an official release to believe something is true. Ed, let me handle things here. Sure you can, ed, because only the naive waits for an official release to believe something is true.

Ed, let me handle things here.

]]> By: Edtrak http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4899 Edtrak Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:24:45 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4899 <p>You can't LIE about what isn't OFFICIALLY released, can you? Stuff gets leaked all the time, or you wouldn't have all the gems you get. But, note how many of those very leaks don't contain all the facts.</p> <p>I love how some think they M's owe them full disclosure on what they are doing and what they are planning to do. If this was a public trust, you may have a point, but it's not.</p> <p>So, I'm not going to rant and rave about crap, just because it's convienent. You can be upset because they didn't do things as you precieved they should...but that's about it. And, that's not a lie.</p> You can’t LIE about what isn’t OFFICIALLY released, can you? Stuff gets leaked all the time, or you wouldn’t have all the gems you get. But, note how many of those very leaks don’t contain all the facts.

I love how some think they M’s owe them full disclosure on what they are doing and what they are planning to do. If this was a public trust, you may have a point, but it’s not.

So, I’m not going to rant and rave about crap, just because it’s convienent. You can be upset because they didn’t do things as you precieved they should…but that’s about it. And, that’s not a lie.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4898 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:09:53 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4898 <p>First off, I guess the M's are the only team in sports that says they do or don't something when they absolutely do.</p> <p>Edtrak, get your learn on man, because whatever you THINK, is usually wrong.</p> <p>Secondly, the Mariners are not the only people that have this information.</p> <p>What are ya, new, ed? C'mon man.</p> <p>And if the M's don't release that sort of info, how do we know, pretty much for fact, that Richie Sexson is owed $14 million in 2008 or that Ichiro signed a 5-year contract for $90+ million --- and that his contract comes with specific parameters that make the deal much more luxury tax friendly for the M's?</p> <p>So yeah, the M's didn't leak any of that information, ed. Whatever.</p> <p>And even if they didn't... someone did.</p> <p>This stuff gets out, just like clauses in contracts, bonuses, options, the dollars...</p> First off, I guess the M’s are the only team in sports that says they do or don’t something when they absolutely do.

Edtrak, get your learn on man, because whatever you THINK, is usually wrong.

Secondly, the Mariners are not the only people that have this information.

What are ya, new, ed? C’mon man.

And if the M’s don’t release that sort of info, how do we know, pretty much for fact, that Richie Sexson is owed $14 million in 2008 or that Ichiro signed a 5-year contract for $90+ million — and that his contract comes with specific parameters that make the deal much more luxury tax friendly for the M’s?

So yeah, the M’s didn’t leak any of that information, ed. Whatever.

And even if they didn’t… someone did.

This stuff gets out, just like clauses in contracts, bonuses, options, the dollars…

]]> By: Edtrak http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4896 Edtrak Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:44:49 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4896 I hate to burst your bubble.....but, the Mariners FO NEVER releases financial details about player contracts.....it's their policy. So, it's kind of hard to lie about what that don't do. I hate to burst your bubble…..but, the Mariners FO NEVER releases financial details about player contracts…..it’s their policy. So, it’s kind of hard to lie about what that don’t do.

]]> By: Uncle Al http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4895 Uncle Al Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:54:34 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4895 That is humurous and probably true. That is humurous and probably true.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4894 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:36:38 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4894 The rebuilding never started. The rebuilding never started.

]]> By: Uncle Al http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4893 Uncle Al Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:01:54 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4893 I didn't like the Vidro trade but, if they use him in a Raul/Vidro platoon and to PH off the bench, it doesn't appear he will be able to vest his option this coming year and the trade isn't totally as bad as it first appeared. We won't be stuck with another huge problem that can't be fixed in 09'. Vidro never was going to be able to vest his option for 09' nor was Guillen for 08' for more than $5M. This FO continually lies about what they are actually doing and the real question is whether 08' or 09' is the year they plan to finally complete the rebuilding. I didn’t like the Vidro trade but, if they use him in a Raul/Vidro platoon and to PH off the bench, it doesn’t appear he will be able to vest his option this coming year and the trade isn’t totally as bad as it first appeared. We won’t be stuck with another huge problem that can’t be fixed in 09′. Vidro never was going to be able to vest his option for 09′ nor was Guillen for 08′ for more than $5M. This FO continually lies about what they are actually doing and the real question is whether 08′ or 09′ is the year they plan to finally complete the rebuilding.

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4892 Jason A. Churchill Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:40:43 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4892 He needs 500 or more in EACH of the two years... he got that easily in 07. He needs 500 or more in EACH of the two years… he got that easily in 07.

]]> By: cujo http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4891 cujo Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:36:37 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4891 Over 2 years are thats how many are left? Over 2 years are thats how many are left?

]]> By: Jason A. Churchill http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4890 Jason A. Churchill Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:30:56 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4890 It's 500 plate appearances. It’s 500 plate appearances.

]]> By: cujo http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4889 cujo Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:18:09 +0000 http://prospectinsider.com/2007/10/31/a-perfect-example/#comment-4889 The only thing we are forgetting the more Vidro plays we are stuck with him in 09 at 9.5 million for a singles hitting DH.He needs a certain amount of atbats and he is close to it allready.Could you find out the exact # Jason? The only thing we are forgetting the more Vidro plays we are stuck with him in 09 at 9.5 million for a singles hitting DH.He needs a certain amount of atbats and he is close to it allready.Could you find out the exact # Jason?

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