Grading The Mariners Draft

Well, there is more than one way too look at the M’s draft, particularly the 11th overall pick in round one. We can talk about how the club made a great decision in taking the most talented player remaining instead of reaching for the best college relief arm available in order to get the quickest return.

Or, we can all pitch in and send the Pittsburgh Pirates and Milwaukee Brewers a fruit basket to thank them for their efforts in making the draft a success for the Seattle Mariners.

Though I’ve been told since the pick was made that the Mariners would have selected Aumont ahead of every other player in the draft except David Price, Josh Vitters and Ross Detweiler, the Brewers and Pirates made it very easy for the hometown nine to make the right decision.

Seattle never had any intention of drafting Arkansas lefty Nick Schmidt ahead of Aumont and a few others, but if Vandy’s Casey Weathers was still available, things would have been somewhat interesting. Things would have gotten dicey had Clemson’s Daniel Moskos been there at No. 11, because the Mariners love Moskos and what they believe he can bring to the pitching staff in a number of future roles.

But in the end, Pittsburgh’s ridiculous overdrafting of Moskos and the Giants everlasting need to save money - somewhere… on something that isn’t a Major League payroll - made it a simple choice for Seattle.

There were four players left in the Mariners Top 12 when they selected in the first round, including Aumont. Matt Dominguez, Beau Mills and Blake Beavan were all selected within six picks after the M’s tabbed their Canadian right-hander.

The selection of Aumont was the right one, by all accounts. His upside is as big-time as any prep arm in the draft, including Rick Porcello, and his physical tools scream innings eater. Aumont’s fastball is the type we like around here. It’s heavy, has good sinking action and tails away from left-handed hitters.

He pitches from a 3/4 slot, which is why his slider is very likely to be his breaking ball of choice. He does throw a curve, but it’s often flat and thrown too hard to sustain effectiveness, though the Mariners are believers in the curve ball and could determine that Aumont will work on it and see what happens.

His change is of the circle variety and could be his most important pitch, at least as a big leaguer. He may cruise in the lower levels with his heater and slider, but he’ll need to be able to change speeds against the better hitters in the upper levels, and certainly in the majors.

In the P-I today I comp’d Aumont to Roy Halladay, not in style but in ceiling ability. Halladay, too, sits in the low 90s with his sinking fastball - touching 94-96 when they feel like it - and though Doc uses a curve ball over a true slider, his height is very important in what he does - just like Aumont.

Aumont has some experience throwing the two-seamer and it’s something he and the Mariners will have to agree on immediately, which is that he’ll use it on the side, but rarely in games until he shows he can consistently command his three primary pitches.

His mechanics are raw, which is just to say he’s a little stiff in his lower body and will need to work with Brad Holman, the organization’s best at making adjustments in the area of a pitcher’s mechanics, to smooth things out.

Aumont should be a super-quick sign which will allow the team to get him a taste of Peoria and/or Everett for a month to six weeks to get his feet wet. This would allow him to begin Spring Training next February on track to start the year in Class A Wisconsin without it being all brand new to him. He’ll have met everyone, built a relationship with some coaches, managers and other players, and had the chance to shake the green froth from his game.

The M’s get an A for drafting Aumont, and it simply doesn’t matter what Dominguez, Mills, Heyward or anyone else drafted right behind him does in the future. The M’s drafted the best player available, and that’s how you build a farm system that results in a consistent, winning organization with a regularly competitive Major League Baseball Club.

In the supplemental round, I originally thought the Mariners overdrafted Matt Mangini, the 3B from Oklahoma State. But since both Sean Doolittle, among those the M’s ranked in the top 25 overall, and Brett Cecil, another in the Mariners top 25 or so, were gone, the club made the right move in taking a chance with Mangini.

Mangini’s stock fell due to a sub par season, but the tools that had him projected as a first-round pick early this season are still there. There have been reports about his approach changing in order for him to make more consistent contact and that might explain why his numbers weren’t special this year.

Many scouts still like him and think he’ll make the transition to the wood bat as well as any hitter in the draft because he’s had more success using wood versus aluminum.

At 6-4 and 230 pounds, Mangini isn’t likely to stick at third base but he should be able to learn and play first base pretty easily and if his bat returns to form, the M’s got a Top 20 talent at No. 52 overall.

Grade: A

I do think the club reached in round two for Denny Almonte and somewhat in round three for Danny Carroll, but the selection of Nolan Gallagher from Stanford might be a bit of a steal in round four.

The Mariners may use Gallagher exclusively out of the bullpen at first and try to get him to exert more effort into his delivery in attempt to subdue his control problems. It worked for Mark Lowe who ended up adding five or six mphs on his fastball and sharpening out his slider in the process.

Joe Dunigan is a pretty good pick, in my opinion. I asked a scout about him and though the review wasn’t glowing as if he should have been a first rounder, the evaluation of his tools and a potential “explosion” of his physical tools spells “value” in round five.

The three most interesting picks of the M’s draft, however, were 7th rounder Nick Hill , a left-handed pitcher from Army, right-handed pitcher Bryan Harris from Cal State Fullerton in round 22 and lefty Donnie Hume from San Diego State in the 8th round.

Hill, 21, has enough stuff, according to one Mariners scout, to turn into a big-league starter and could help out in relief until he’s ready. Hill has good command of three pitches with just enough velocity to compete.

He’s probably not on the fast track - think Robert Rohrbaugh - but he might be able to help down the road, and that’s all you can ask of a 7th round pick.

In all, the Mariners did pretty well, though I would have preferred to see them stay a little safer in rounds three through six, but they certainly can’t be blamed much more going with the high reward talents.

Overall Grade: B

I think the Mariners got two future big-league players in this year’s draft, and maybe three if one of the arms in Hill, Harris or Hume pans out.

Almonte and Dunigan are interesting and Almonte’s upside is there, so he’ll be fun to watch progress. Adam Jones had a few of the same concerns when he was drafted in 2003, and not many questioned the pick at the time.

Last year’s draft was probably deeper for Seattle, but Aumont is an impact arm with a chance to be better than Morrow in the rotation.

Kudos to the Mariners for a very good 2007 Draft.

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Scouting Report - Phillippe Aumont, RHP

STRENGTHS: Aumont is an aggressive pitcher who trusts his stuff and has displayed mound presence and maturity beyond his years. He is a product of the revamped and much improved national baseball program in Canada and is considered the country’s best prospect since Adam Loewen of the Orioles.

At 6-7, Aumont can dominate when he stays on top of his pitches. He is likely to add more velocity to his fastball as he matures both physically and mechanically.

WEAKNESSES: Aumont is inexperienced even when compared with other prep pitchers. But with more work on the side as well as during the offseason, he’ll have a chance to turn his size into a bonus rather than somewhat of a hindrance as far as his mechanics are concerned.

Most scouts believe he’ll need to speed up his delivery to help him create a repeatable pitching motion and improve the arm action on his breaking ball and changeup.

His lack of polish would be alarming if he hadn’t participated in the Cape Cod League and performed well against rookie-level clubs and extended spring training squads.

TOOLS

Fastball: His four-seam fastball is in the 90- to 93-mph range and has touched 96. Pitching from a slightly low three-quarters arm slot, Aumont gets quality sinking action and good movement on the pitch, which is often described by scouts as a “heavy ball.”

Aumont could end up settling into the mid-90s with his fastball and is a prime candidate to learn the two-seamer should the need arise.

Slider: Aumont’s slider is typically in the low 80s and is an average pitch. His arm slot helps create a natural cutting action, and he’ll throw the pitch in any count. When it’s on, Aumont’s slider has a sharp, late break and dives out of the zone, collecting a lot of swings and misses.

He must stay on top of it, however, to avoid leaving the pitch up in the zone.

Changeup: His change has been clocked in the 83- to 86-mph range despite his sparing use of the pitch. One AL scout who followed Aumont this spring believes it eventually will be an above-average offering.

Command/Control: Aumont has solid control of both his two-seamer and his four-seamer, and at times his slider follows suit. But he’ll need to clean up his command of the breaking ball to maximize its effectiveness.

Getting him to a point at which he’s consistent with his arm angle and arm speed on all his pitches will allow him to focus on throwing them for strikes with regularity.

Mechanics/Delivery: His mechanics are satisfactory, but will need constant fine-tuning and monitoring because of his size and the tendency for taller pitchers to fall out of whack with their balance, leg kick and arm motion.

FUTURE: Aumont grades similarly to Seattle’s second-round choice last June, Chris Tillman, but with a bigger upside because of the heavy sink on his fastball.

He’s expected to be among the easiest negotiations among the first-rounders, and if he signs quickly, he could get innings with Seattle’s short-season clubs in Peoria, Ariz., and Everett. An early start would put him on track to begin 2008 in Class A Wisconsin.

Aumont projects as a No. 2 starter in the big leagues and could move steadily through the system. If all else fails, his stuff plays out of the bullpen. All signs point to the Mariners’ having selected a rotation pal for Felix Hernandez.

MLB COMPARABLE: Roy Halladay, Blue Jays

MLB ETA: 2011

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Prospect Insider Mock Draft 2007

Not much has changed in this town, eh?

The Seattle Mariners still have four key members of management, both on and off the field, that are trying to save their hide by putting wins in the win column as soon as possible and serenading the attendance.

The M’s claim they are not going to make a decision in this year’s draft based on saving their jobs and getting a quick return at No. 11 on a player that can impact the 2007 season.

They claim that money just isn’t an issue and won’t be a problem in any manner.

But they also claimed that signing Jeff Weaver to a one-year, $8.235 million contract was a necessary transaction… and don’t we all know how that turned out?

The draft is always strange, at least of late. The projected order of selection changes every day no matter who you ask. Clubs consider so many angles before making their decision - sometimes too many angles.


This time around the value is all in the prep player, mostly the starting pitchers. Right-hander Rick Porcello is the top high school pitcher while David Price is the top overall talent. But after the No. 1 pick, Price, and Missouri State southpaw Ross Detweiler, the college pitching crop is very thin.Andrew Brackman, Casey Weathers, Nick Schmidt, Daniel Moskos and Brett Cecil are all expected to be top 40 picks, but Weathers, Moskos and Schmidt are of the relief variety, though Moskos has a decent chance to start in the major leagues.T

his is where Seattle comes into play.The rumors are out there that the M’s are after an immediate return - again - and will take one of the three relief arms - Moskos, Schmidt, Weathers - and probably in that order.

I expect Moskos to be off the board at No. 11 and if Josh Vitters, Ross Detweiler and Rick Porcello are all gone by 11 as expected, the Mariners are very likely to pull the trigger on Nick Schmidt, Casey Weathers, Beau Mills or Matt Dominguez.

It appears unlikely that Seattle would take Jason Heyward or Matt Wieters if they fell to 11. Matt Moustakas and Phillippe Aumont aren’t expected to be around at 11, but both would likely be snagged by the Mariners if they fell for one reason or the other.

Mock Draft 2007
NO. Team Player Pos. PI Says…
1 Tampa Bay
David Price LHP Should be in Rays rotation within a year.
2 Kansas City Josh Vitters 3B Royals could still snag Porcello or Parker here.
3 Chicago Jarrod Parker RHP The Cubs want Vitters here and could look at Porcello.
4 Pittsburgh
Daniel Moskos LHP The Bucs reach a bit to save a little cash. Detweiler makes more sense..
5 Baltimore
Ross Detweiler LHP Not much chance Detweiler makes it past the O’s.
6 Washington Mike Moustakas 3B Nats don’tneed a third baseman but Moustakas’ bat plays anywhere.
7 Milwaukee
Phillippe Aumont
RHP The Brewers could overdraft Borbon here,but pitching is the value.
8 Colorado
Nick Schmidt
LHP “Not a reliever, necessarily” says one scout. Rockies bite.
9 Arizona Matt Dominguez
3B After signing Scherzer,D-Backs probably go offense. Wieters?
10 San Francisco
Casey Weathers
RHP Giants could snag Wieters here, but may look to save cash with Weathers.
11 Seattle
Beau Mills
1B With all five college arms off their board, M’s grab a bat.
12 Florida
Jason Heyward
1B Heyward is a good fit and could go to Atlanta at 14.
13 Cleveland
Blake Beavan
RHP Apparently, this is among the biggest non-secrets as the draft gets closer.
14 Atlanta
Michael Maine
RHP The Barves would pop Heyward here, take a prep pitcher as backup.
15 Cincinnati
Devin Mesaraco
C Reds could go with SS Kozma or Borbon, but need catching.

Late talk has many clubs in the 5-12 range on the college relievers, specifically left-handers Schmidt and Moskos, and unless the Giants grab Matt Wieters at 10, they may snag Casey Weathers there and leave the Mariners without a college arm to take, unless they reach for Brett Cecil or Andrew Brackman.

Nick Schmidt has gained a lot of ground since a group of scouts came to the conclusion that he’s not automatically a bullpen arm and could get to the majors pretty quickly as a middle of the rotation starter.

I can see the Mariners taking Moskos, Schmidt, Weathers, Mills or Dominguez, and in that order of preference.

The M’s draft board has Price, Vitters, Porcello and Wieters as the top four talents, but Porcello and Wieters are not going to be Mariners unless something drastically changes between now (10AM) and the time Seattle chooses at 11.

After that, the Mariners like Ross Detweiler, Phillippe Aumont and then Moskos. Mike Moustakas isn’t a favorite, but they see the value in his bat if he falls to 11.
Note:  If you choose to listen to the conference call on MLB Radio, the voice you’ll be hearing speak for the Mariners’ selections is Dan Evans, a special assistant to General Manager Bill Bavasi.

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Prospect Insider Draft Board 2.0

Draft Board Updated to 2.0… Mock Draft coming Tuesday night after Draft Board 3.0 on Monday.

The M’s have been focusing on pitchers a lot more the past few weeks, but the rumors that they have pretty much settled on taking a college arm that may help the bullpen within the next year are false, according to the Mariners.

“We understand that starting pitching is such a valued commodity in the game today and will strongly consider any talent at No. 11,” said a member of the scouting and player development department. “We refuse to eliminate any part of the draft as some sort of philosophy; we have to consider college players, high school players, pitchers, hitters… everyone. We believe you really hurt your chances at getting the proper return on any pick if your strategy is centered around anything but getting the best talent you can.”

This brings up an interesting question: Did the M’s believe Brandon Morrow was a better pure talent than both Andrew Miller and Tim Lincecum last June? So I asked it of the front office.

“We had them all right in the same range,” he said. “I can surely see why there are questions about it, and to be honest, money isn’t a concern unless we think it has a chance to end up hindering the continuity of the process and therefore his development right off the bat. But it’s a lot like anything of value. Would you rather get a Porsche today for $100,000 or possibly a Ferrari next spring? Sometimes you take the sure thing. But really, that’s not what we did last year. You can see what Brandon has done for the club this year and we do think he can start down the road.”

This is the gem…

I asked about Matt Wieters falling and if the Mariners might bite, even though they selected Clement at No. 3 two years ago.

“Wieters’ position doesn’t mean a lot to us. If he catches, great. But his bat is what we like. He can hit for average and power from both sides of the plate and that’s a unique talent on its own. If we believed we could get a deal done in a reasonable time frame, we’ll absolutely take the best guy there when we come up, whether it’s a hitter or a pitcher on either level.

“But signability is hugely important to us. We don’t like the idea that we waste a pick. You can’t lose out on the opportunity to add to the overall talent in the organization in our efforts to build a winning team.”

Draft Board 2.0
NO. PLAYER B/T HT/WT PI Says/Mariners Angle
1 Matt Wieters, C
S/R 6-5/230 Switch-hitter with power, will catch. The Boras client may fall; M’s won’t bite.
2 Josh Vitters, 3B R/R 6-3/195 David Wright clone with the bat. Won’t fall past Pitt at No. 4.
3 David Price, LHP L/L 6-5/215 Probably the top pick. Safest arm in draft will go No. 1 to Tampa.
4 Ross Detweiler, LHP
L/L 6-4/175 No. 3 on the M’s draft board won’t slide past the Nats at No. 6.
5 Rick Porcello, RHP
R/R 6-5/195 Top prep arm in draft could go No. 2 to the Royals.
6 Matt Harvey, RHP R/R 6-4/190 Has fallen due to rumored bonus demands. M’s like others more than Harvey.
7 Jarrod Parker, RHP
R/R 6-2/175 Top prep arm on M’s board may reach 11 spot if D-Backs pass.
8 Beau Mills, 1B
L/R 6-3/205 Scout: “He hit at Fresno State before he moved to LCSU; numbers are legit.”
9 Phillippe Aumont, RHP R/R 6-7/225 M’s like the projectable righty with heavy fastball. Could be the choice at 11.
10 Jason Heyward, 1B
L/L 6-2/200 Might be the safest lefty stick in the draft. Has 30-homer power, solid approach.
11 Madison Bumgarner, LHP
L/L 6-5/220 Worries about breaking ball outweigh his sound mechanics, projectability.
12 Daniel Moskos, LHP
L/L 6-1/200 MLB Clone: BJ Ryan. Mariners rumored to be after college reliever.
13 Blake Beavan, RHP
R/R 6-7/210 Perhaps the most undervalued arm in draft. Seattle has close eye on Beavan.
14 Michael Maine, RHP
R/R 6-1/175 Physical stature only concern; stuff as good as top 3 prep arms.
15 Matt Dominguez, 3B
R/R 6-2/185 Some team in top 15 will regret not taking MD; Ryan Zimmerman clone.

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